A guest post from Thomas Ekvall...
"My
recent experience trying to buy property in Tenerife is rather
puzzling for a country having millions of unsold houses. I started
off with going to a bank in Santa Cruz to open an account. The bank
considered my documentation sufficient, however I was informed that I
needed a “NIE” to open an account; consequently I went to the
national police in Santa Cruz to obtain this. At the police station I
was asked to pay a small fee for the “NIE” that had to be paid
through a bank (an inconvenient way to pay a negligible fee).
Nevertheless I went back to the bank to pay the fee.
Back
at the bank I was informed that I had to obtain the “NIE” number
before I could pay the fee. Consequently I went back to the police
just to be told rather forcefully – no I had to pay first. I went
back to the bank again to tell them that I was now really stuck and
asked them to call the police officer in question to try to solve the
problem which they were not willing to do.
I
went back again to the police and tried to explain the situation and
asked them to call the bank which they most certainly were not going
to do; consequently I could not open an account.
I
told my property broker about my experience, he smiled and said these
things happen in Spain. However, he offered to help and he asked me
to come to Porto Cruz at 9 am the next day, which I did and we went
together to the national police just to be told that they were closed
for the day. I was instructed to come back before 7 am the next day.
The
next day I left Santa Cruz before 5 am to make sure I would make my
appointment. Just before 7am I was ushered into a waiting room rather
rudely by uniformed police. Here I was kept waiting together with
another dozen people from 7am until 8:30 am when a formidable police
lady graced us with her presence surveying her day’s crop of
intimidated “NIE” applicants. As they had no number system she
tried to establish in which order we had arrived by asking us, this
unsurprisingly ended in confusion.
By
about 9 am we were given the forms to fill-in, all in Spanish, by
definition none of us were Spanish. My broker helped me to fill-in
the forms. It must be in Spain’s interest to have staff dealing
with potential buyers of property to at least speak English and
German and have the relevant forms in these two languages. The only
things in the office in languages other than Spanish were large signs
in English and German urging “NIE” applicants to keep quiet.
A
lady applicant, next to me, noticed that I had help with my Spanish
so she asked my broker if he could help her as well, which he agreed
to do, however, our formidable police lady intervened to stop my
broker from helping her, she said: she should have come with her own
interpreter.
The
time was now past 10 am and my case had as yet not been broached.
Again our formidable police lady appears before us to deal with
another applicant who had by now waited patiently for well over two
hours. She asked him to go out and photocopy a document in a nearby
shop and added brusquely: be quick.
My
broker, who now sensed that I was getting irritated, told me things
were in fact improving, she used to keep applicants waiting in the
sun all day just to slam the door in their faces when she felt she
had dealt with enough applicants for the day. He had observed one
couple in their mid eighties being treated in this fashion.
Just
before 11 am I was finally allowed to hand in my forms, but not
without complications, the formidable lady noticed that the address I
had given in Tenerife was a hotel in Santa Cruz and she wanted to
send me back to Santa Cruz after a long discussion my broker managed
to convince her to accept my case.
Just
past 11 am I and my broker were allowed into the formidable police
lady’s office. My broker who entered first sat down in one of two
chairs in front of her desk just to be asked to stand up. We finished
our business some 15 minutes past 11 am after having paid the fee. I
was told to come back at 1 pm the following day to collect my “NIE”.
I
and my broker went to a café near the police station to reflect on
our experience; minutes after we had sat down the formidable police
lady appears for a cup of coffee. She at this point had another eight
applicants to deal with who by now had been waiting for her attention
for close to five hours.
The
next day at 15 minutes to 1 pm I arrived, as instructed, at the
national police station in Porto Cruz. The uniformed police at the
reception told me in no uncertain terms to go away saying they were
closed. I tried to explain that I was asked to come there at this
hour. We obviously did not understand each other so he asked me to
come with him into the office to speak to a colleague of his who
spoke English. He entered an inner office and said something to me
that I did not understand and I followed him into the inner office,
he then turned around and shouted at me and pushed me out.
At
about 1pm I was finally ushered into the waiting room where I was,
after an hour or so, given an audience with the formidable police
lady and given my temporary “NIE” after six visits to the police,
12 days and US$ 5,000 for air tickets, food and hotel room. This
inept and humiliating process has postponed indefinitely me buying
any property in Spain."
Thomas
Ekvall
4 comments:
anyone living here....tenerife...catalunya....spain...can totally understand this post! Would be funny if it wasn't so infuriating.
Yes, infuriating. I published this guy's story because I was appalled of course, but not shocked because these kinds of stories are (sadly) not unique, though this is surely an extreme case. I am genuinely sorry he had to go through all that and partly embarrased that our adopted home can be so backward in this way. I have had some similar, though mercifully shorter, dramas myself, living here for 7 years now. I'm sure you do to!
Painful.
Thanks for the comment, Angela. It is painful and I get the sense that the pain is a long way from over. As a house owner here myself, I sometimes wonder how we did it!(And for that matter how we are still paying the mortgage every month...)
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